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Christopher Nolan's Batman characters vs Tim Burton's Batman characters.
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spencermalley Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2015
It may be obvious with my Avatar and all, but in my opinion, The Dark Knight trilogy works so much better as movies than the Burton ones do.
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IncredibleFulk1 Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Hobbyist Artist
It's your opinion. But you can't deny the impact the Burton films had.
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spencermalley Featured By Owner 5 days ago
More like the impact Batman 89 had.
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IncredibleFulk1 Featured By Owner 5 days ago  Hobbyist Artist
So you don't deny it? Good.
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spencermalley Featured By Owner 5 days ago
I don't deny the impact but I think they're both kind of overrated.
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wallybescotty Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
do you have any wide scren versions of the tim burton batman art?  really cool just would like to see more of the keaton batman hard to find good shots that arent of the toys
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Vinnyjohn13 Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No sorry, usually I mix Tim Burton Batman with other variations of Batman. It's true, a lot of the artwork is the Hot Toys figure.
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wallybescotty Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
well they are great.  if you ever want to share any keaton batman walls give me a shout i faved the ones i liked
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Vinnyjohn13 Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Will do!! Thanks!!
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SuperGrantzilla Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2014
I like them both equally, because Kevin Conroy's Batman beats them both up!
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stick-man-11 Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2014  Hobbyist
Burton wins easily. 
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IncredibleFulk1 Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Hobbyist Artist
Agree!
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spencermalley Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2015
Other way around.
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Jrey1986 Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2014
Man I love This one,Awesome Work Man!!
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Vinnyjohn13 Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks man!!
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SephirothZilla Featured By Owner Edited Sep 18, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
My love extends for both series, great picture!
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Vinnyjohn13 Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you!!
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T2JD Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2014
Great. Burton's Batman films are the best.
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InfinateEclipse Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2014
Beautiful! Normally I'd go TAS/Comics but if I had to choose... It'd be Nolan! I was truly memorized on how well casted the Nolan Films were! I will always remember The Dark Knight as The Dark, Gritty Batman that we deserve... Not The Neon Lighted Batman & Robin! The Art is well done and I wish that I could eventually draw like that (I'd like to write a Comic someday...)
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Vinnyjohn13 Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you so much!! Yeah the Dark Knight movies have such great legitimate casts. Nolan did such a great job turing comics into realism. I'll always love the Burton movies as well because that's what I grew up with. Overall I would say I prefer the Dark Knight Trilogy over the first 2 Burton movies.
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BlackRose-TheArtist Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Christopher Nolan!... I'm sure I'm biased 'cause I'm a fan.... Because his really good
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Huesca000 Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
amazing, And the winner is Burton.
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Vinnyjohn13 Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you!!
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Heriorh Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2013  Hobbyist Filmographer
Christian is the best here, no one can beat him!
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FiZzLE-03O Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2014
kevin conroy
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Heriorh Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
The Animated Series are different))
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WillaWalo Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Tim for sure. BUT i do like Nolan's Joker too
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sylviaD Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2013
A W E S O M E !
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Vinnyjohn13 Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you!!

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sylviaD Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2013
You're welcome!
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SpencArt100 Featured By Owner May 16, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Epic pic man!!!!
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Vinnyjohn13 Featured By Owner May 16, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you!!
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paul626 Featured By Owner May 16, 2013
freaking love this pic
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Vinnyjohn13 Featured By Owner May 16, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks so much!!
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devilwontcry Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013
I feel that Michael Keaton's interpretation of Batman was better because he was naturally intimidating. Christian Bale's, while good, seemed as if he was trying a little too hard.

But I like both versions. :)
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TheNeonSalmon Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2013
I can see that. i like both of them too but something about Keaton's eyes. And Keaton's Batman rarely spoke. For me the weak point of the Nolan films was where he always made Bale's Batman give these long corny monologues.
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Anteanima Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013
Why choose? ^^
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Kurvos Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2013
Fantastic job on this picture! :D I love the level of details, and how incredibly well you nail the characters from the movies. Incredible. ^^

So, as for the VS thingie here... while I think both Nolan and Burton takes a few too many liberties with the source material - Burton stays closer to a proper Batman than Nolan does. Don't get me wrong though - I have no problems with changes. Just that when you change something, I believe the change should be an improvement.
And I think Burton does that better than Nolan. Nolan also tries too hard to be pretentious and dialogue-heavy with his movies, while Burton just wants us to have fun with his movies and take us on a fantastic visual ride - while also connecting to us emotionally.

I still hope for the perfect live action Batman movies - but to me, Burton wins. Especially since neither of his Batman movies where bad, while Nolan's third movie was just beyond stupid to me. XP
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spencermalley Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2015
Whats this BS about Burton giving us a "Proper Batman"? He turned Batman into a two-dimensional Punisher Clone who wasn't even the main charatcter of his own movies

The Nolan movies actually focused on Batman and gave him actual character development. also helps that there Commissioner Gordon had both a personality and a relevant role in the story unlike Burtons.
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TheNeonSalmon Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2013
The third Nolan film had serious issues but Bane was a good addition. Tom Hardy was great.
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Kurvos Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2013
Tom Hardy acted very well in the movie and made a pretty cool character, but he sounded really silly with his Sean Connery-like Darth Vader swallowing a cat, and the plot twist at the climax and his death ruined so much. Not to mention, his motivations for doing what he does are dumb. XP
I honestly think The Dark Knight Rises is one of the worst movies I have ever seen. A movie combining The Dark Knight Returns and No Man's Land and Knightfall has no rights being THIS shitty.
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spencermalley Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2015
 "sounded really silly"

Check out the TAS version of the character.
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TheNeonSalmon Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2013
I had problems with it too. Even small things like why can't Nolan just call her Catwoman? God forbid he goes a little comic book and calls her Catwoman.

The stupid retirement too. Horrible idea. Batman retired in "The Dark Knight Returns" because he was
old as hell,broken down,had the death of Jason Todd and the dissolution of the Justice League after the government outlawed heroes basically. In "Rises" he retired because some cops thought he killed one guy! Wow. Terrible idea.

Also,no mention of the Joker at all? The Joker is the biggest and baddest villain Batman has an they act like he didnt exist.

Talia Al Ghul taking the lamest revenge ever.

The film has issues you are correct.
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spencermalley Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2015
"In "Rises" he retired because some cops thought he killed one guy!"

That could not be further from the truth. He outright states his reason to Gordon in the hospital, "Batman wasn't needed anymore, We won". Thats why he stopped not because of Rachel or the cops chasing him but because the city didn't need him.

In this series, Batman is whatever Gotham needs him to be, He's not whatever Gotham doesn't need him to be. Hell he was perfectly willing to hang up the cowl and pass the mantle of protector to Harvey Dent in TDK.
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TheNeonSalmon Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2015
But that's BS. Batman wasnt needed anymore??? Why because organized crime was mostly defeated?
What kind of Batman is that? And anyway,in organized crime,when one guy dies or goes to Jail,someone else takes his place. There is ALWAYS organized crime. 

 Batman doesn't retire like that.  He's supposed to be out there patrolling the streets of his city every single night. Organized crime is not the majority of crime in any major city. They say there are about 5,000 Italian Mafia members in America. That's it. 
There is plenty of  random and disorganized crime out there but I guess the Nolan Batman isn't concerned with your average muggers,rapists and thieves. Nolan's Batman only cares about organized crime. It's silly and it's not how Batman should be. 

In "The Dark Knight" I understood it. That film featured a young Batman still since it was set only a few months after "Begins." He would have loved to settle down with Rachel,retire for his health and let Harvey Dent fight the war on crime. I'll go along with that. But in "Rises" they undermined it. Dent obviously didn't happen and wouldn't be around so you would think Batman would HAVE to stay active and save his city in Dent's absence. But he retired anyway. 

What Gotham needs is a non selfish Batman who patrols the streets every night. "Rises" got it wrong. 
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spencermalley Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2015
"There is ALWAYS organized crime".

Not in TDKR, Thanks to Harvey Dents memory and the fact that Organized crime was clearly on its last legs throughout TDK.

In Batman Begins, Bruce is shown that street crime is a symptom of corruption, so he doesn't just tackle the symptoms while the disease rages on, He focuses on inspiring the people through his anonymity to fight back against the corruption, Lack of corruption equals reduced street crime, Hell again TDK established that Batmans presence was reducing street crime. Harvey Dent wouldn't have been able to clear the streets of petty crime overnight but Batman was still willing to pass it on to him.

Batman taking the blame for Harvey Dents murders to preserve his reputation and image needed to have some kind of positive effect on Gotham City, and it did. If Batman had taken the blame and Gotham was still basically the same crime ridden hellhole with a Harvey Dent memorial somewhere, than his sacrifice would've been completely pointless. Blake even states that street crime has been reduced as well to the point "We'll soon be chasing down overdue library books". If Batman did try and go out during that time period, He'd arguably do more harm than good, as crime would flourish because the police would put capturing him as priority over fighting crime themselves.

Nolan's Batman, especially in Rises, was the complete opposite of selfish, As soon as he hears of a threat to Gotham city (Bane) he almost immediately suits up to deal with the threat. He didn't retire as Gotham got worse like in the Dark Knight Returns, They hammer it into you how much cleaner Gotham is throughout the beginning of TDKR, establishing that Batman wasn't needed.
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TheNeonSalmon Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2015
No sir,In "Rises" he only got interested in doing any work when Selina Kyle stole his Mother's pearls. That's the reason. All of a sudden he's back in the cave on the computer. So rapists and killers on the streets (or as you called it "petty" crime) don't matter but if someone steals his pearls then all of sudden he's interested in crime. That is completely against the grain of the character. Taking liberties is one thing but this...


So in this trilogy he was Batman like 3 times in "Begins" yet somehow this legend is so large already by the time "Dark Knight" takes place. Whatever. Then in "Dark Knight" he's already trying to pass on the mantle to Dent. He's been Batman for about a year. How is this any good? This Batman is looking to quit and retire at like every turn or settle down with Maggie Gylenhaal. What would do more good: A trained fighter/vigilante scaring and beating up the bad guys every night or a college boy DA going through months of litigation in hopes of maybe putting some gangsters in prison? That's an obvious one.

Also,zero reason for Batman to take the blame for Dent. What's wrong with the COPS telling the public that the Joker drove Dent crazy and burnt him up? Why not blame the actual bad guy? 
I think the public would understand a man going crazy who had his face burnt off. 

#1 Batman does not pass the mantle on to anyone. Completely against the character unless he's 85 and in bad health in the case of something like Batman Beyond. 

#2 Batman knows he probably can't settle down and live in peace. Sad reality. 

#3 Batman hates all crime. All crime. Will not rest until crime is gone. This is why he never rests. 

*The Dark Knight Returns is not comparable. In that story,he was a broken down,old,alcoholic  and was forced to retire partially due to a Government mandate as well as the guilt of Robin's death. Plus he came back to active duty at nearly 60 years old and continued on after the story ended. That's Batman. 

The Nolan trilogy had some great moments and amazing perfoamnces but largely featured a selfish,immature and undeveloped Batman even by the third movie. 
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Kurvos Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2013
I've made two reviews of the movie. One right after I saw it in theaters, and I was a bit nicer to it: [link]
And then a second review after watching the movie a third time: [link]
Stating new things and saying it might be one of the worst movies I have ever seen. I bring up a lot of your points as well. Though, of course you don't have to read it all. Just felt like sharing.

People can love it all they want, that's fine. But oh my god... it has some serious problems with it.
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spencermalley Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2015
"Stating new things and saying it might be one of the worst movies I have ever seen"

You must not have watched many movies then if you really think that of TDKR.
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cjkelley333 Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2013  Hobbyist Filmographer
I agree with everything you said. The Dark Knight and Batman Begins are two of my favorite movies, but I prefer Burton's film.
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